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		<title>Different kinds of carabiners</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[During the time I&#8217;ve been climbing, I&#8217;ve bumped into many kinds of carabiners and quickdraws. I have gradually built a certain view on them, especially what comes to ice climbing. As a result, while waiting for the next season and upcoming Outdoor Show, I thought to write down my thoughts about them + my experiences [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>During the time I&#8217;ve been climbing, I&#8217;ve bumped into many kinds of carabiners and quickdraws. I have gradually built a certain view on them, especially what comes to ice climbing. As a result, while waiting for the next season and upcoming Outdoor Show, I thought to write down my thoughts about them + my experiences on carabiners and quickdraws that belong to my &#8220;standard&#8221; rack.</p>
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<small>Picture above: There they are, my standard rack carabiners and quickdraws.<br />
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<p><strong>What&#8217;s important:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Clearclip nose &#8211; It makes it just that much easier to grab it from your harness, as well as clip off whether it&#8217;s screw, rope or webbing. Right now there&#8217;s a wide selection of light clearclip carabiners available. There&#8217;s just no reason to get anything else.</li>
<li>Weight &#8211; Weight reflects directly to everything you do. In carabiners, especially what comes to carabiners used in quickdraws, it adds up fast. It&#8217;s not perhaps a reason to replace your old carabiners, but when ever you buy new ones, you should get light ones.</li>
<li>No auto-locking mechanisms &#8211; Auto-locking mechanisms tend to freeze up and generate a great deal of difficulties. I&#8217;ve been in a situation where my Petzl william ball lock froze up to the point that I had to spend about 30 minutes to get it open. I&#8217;m not planning to get to such situation again.</li>
<li>Smooth and acurate gate operation &#8211; It&#8217;s important while clipping, also note that if it&#8217;s locking carabiner, the screw operation should be smooth. Often the &#8220;smoothness&#8221; translates to quality and quality affects overall durability and safety of your gear.</li>
</ul>
<p>People, especially ones that do plenty of rock climbing, talk about durability too. In my opinion it&#8217;s not as much of an issue on ice, as there&#8217;s lot less dirt &#8211; thus carabiners do not wear down as much. I actually have different set of carabiners for ice, indoor and rock climbing exactly for this reason. Well, as ice climbing is my primary sport, my rock and gym carabiners are mostly ones I&#8217;ve purchased for ice climbing&#8230; even the auto-lockers which I purchased before I knew their freezing problems. <img src='http://www.climbingextreme.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><strong>Quickdraws and carabiners on my standard ice rack</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>3x <a title="Black Diamond Positron Screw Gate in tribevine.com" href="http://www.tribevine.com/product?p=2601&amp;name=Black%20Diamond%20%20Positron%20Screwgate">Black Diamond Positron Screw Gate</a> <em>(weight 56g)</em> &#8211; I use these for building anchors. While a bit old already, they&#8217;re pretty light and proven to be reliable good quality pieces of equipment.</li>
<li>3x <a title="Petzl Attache 3D in tribevine.com" href="http://www.tribevine.com/product?p=4478&amp;name=Petzl%20%20Attache%203D">Petzl Attache 3D</a> <em>(weight 55g)</em> &#8211; My newer set of anchor building carabiners. Slightly larger but still lighter than Positrons. Good grip on locking screw.</li>
<li>1x <a title="Mammut Bionic Mytholito in tribevine.com" href="http://www.tribevine.com/product?p=4481&amp;name=Mammut%20Bionic%20Mytholito">Mammut Bionic Mytholito</a> <em>(weight 58g)</em> &#8211; My belay carabiner. Slightly hevier than Attache, but I like having different kinds of carabiners for different purposes. As anchor building carabiners get in touch with protection and tend to develop sharp edges it&#8217;s good idea to keep them away from belay loop. The locking screw is slightly slippery, but other vice good quality.</li>
<li>1x <a title="Mammut Bionic HMS in tribevine.com" href="http://www.tribevine.com/product?p=9710&amp;name=Mammut%20Bionic%20HMS">Mammut Bionic HMS</a> (weight 72g) &#8211; My large anchor building carabiner; the one I tie clove hitches and use for organizing stuff. Attache is kind of large enough, but this one is larger.The locking screw is slightly slippery, but other vice good quality.</li>
<li>2x <a title="Petzl Ange in tribevine.com" href="http://www.tribevine.com/product?p=4337&amp;name=Petzl%20%20Ange">Petzl Ange S</a> (weight 28g) &#8211; Couple of extra carabiners for general purpose clipping, can use them for extendable draw or clipping things like bottles and cameras where ever I need to. Some people consider these too small, but I haven&#8217;t had any problems with them. They&#8217;re really light and clipping feel is excellent.</li>
<li>1x <a title="Austrialpin Easy Classic in tribevine.com" href="http://www.tribevine.com/product?p=9713&amp;name=Austrialpin%20Easy%20Classic">Austrialpin Easy Classic</a> (weight 48g) &#8211; I use it in the fixed cow&#8217;s tail I have in my harness, which I occasionally clip to my ice tool. While not the lightest, it provides good grip and clip on and off are surprisingly easy.</li>
<li>5x Modified <a title="Wild Country Helium Quickdraw in tribevine.com" href="http://www.tribevine.com/product?p=3853&amp;name=Wild%20Country%20%20Helium%20Quickdraw">Wild Country Helium Quickdraw</a> <em>(weight 70-74g)</em> &#8211; Newer half of my quickdraws. I replaced the original dogbone with <a title="Edelrid Dyneema Quickdraw Sling 8mm in tribevine.com" href="http://www.tribevine.com/product?p=5811&amp;name=Edelrid%20Sports%20Dyneema%20Quickdraw%20Slings%208%20mm">Edelrid 8mm dogbone</a>, because the rubber carabiner holder in original ones just couldn&#8217;t take low temperatures. Besides Edelrid dogbones are slightly lighter. Besides the dogbone problem Heliums are excellent quick draws.</li>
<li>5x <a title="Black Diamond Positron Quickdraw in tribevine.com" href="http://www.tribevine.com/product?p=2272&amp;name=Black%20Diamond%20%20Positron%20Quickdraw">Black Diamond Positron Quickdraw</a> <em>(weight 105g)</em> &#8211; My old set of quickdraws. While a bit heavy, they&#8217;ve served me well. Clipping is okay and the rubber thingy that keeps the carabiner in place is durable.</li>
<li>2x Custom made Quickdraw, <a title="Mammut Bionic Wire Safe Gate in tribevine.com" href="http://www.tribevine.com/product?p=4332&amp;name=Mammut%20Bionic%20Wire%20Safe%20Gate">Mammut Bionic Wiresafe Gate</a> (rope end), <a title="Edelrid Dyneema Quickdraw Sling 8mm in tribevine.com" href="http://www.tribevine.com/product?p=5811&amp;name=Edelrid%20Sports%20Dyneema%20Quickdraw%20Slings%208%20mm">Edelrid 8mm dogbone</a>, <a title="Petzl Ange in tribevine.com" href="http://www.tribevine.com/product?p=4337&amp;name=Petzl%20%20Ange">Petzl Ange S</a> (protection end) <em>(weight 65g)</em> &#8211; I eneded up doing couple of these funky looking light quickdraws after I had a few extra carabiners, which I had acquired while in search and testing the best clear clip carabiner. While I like the shape of the Bionic Wire Safe gates, they&#8217;re a bit heavier than <a title="Wild Country Helium at tribevine.com" href="http://www.tribevine.com/product?p=4327&amp;name=Wild%20Country%20%20Helium">Wildcountry Heliums</a>. Other vice Mammut Wiresafe Gate carabiners are equally good as other good quality light clear clip carabiners. And yes, that&#8217;s lighter than any in-stock quickdraw with full sized carabiner on rope end.</li>
<li>1x Custom made shock absorbing Quickdraw, <a title="DMM Shield in tribevine.com" href="http://www.tribevine.com/product?p=4328&amp;name=DMM%20Climbing%20%20Shield">DMM Shield</a> Carabiners, <a title="E-climb Dissip in tribevine.com" href="http://www.tribevine.com/product?p=4398&amp;name=E-climb%20%20dissip">E-Climb Dissip</a> shock absorbing sling <em>(weight 116g)</em> &#8211; Pretty much the same story as above, just that I ended up using the DMM shields on shock absorber. DMM Shield works and feels pretty much like Mammut Wiresafe Gates, which according to some sources are actually manufactured by DMM.</li>
</ul>
<p>Right now I&#8217;m relaying almost always to &#8220;ready made&#8221; quickdraws. This being said, many of my friends have recommended that I should replace a few of my quickdraws with extendable slings. Second odd thing is that I have many quickdraws. Part of the explanation is the fact that we climb using long 70m ropes, but other part is the fact that I like having a few extra quickdraws just in case. Which of course mitigates, in certain extent, the weight savings from light stuff. <img src='http://www.climbingextreme.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  Well, depending on route quite often I&#8217;ll leave a few Positron Quickdaws to the ground.</p>
<p><strong>Other carabiners I currently have</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>3x <a title="Kong HMS Classic in tribevine.com" href="http://www.tribevine.com/product?p=5277&amp;name=KONG%20%20H.M.S%20Classic">Kong HMS Classic</a> (weight 86g) &#8211; My old anchor building carabiner set. While these are quite heavy compared to the lightest modern carabiners they offer clear clip nose and good build quality.</li>
<li>3x <a title="Petzl William in tribevine.com" href="http://www.tribevine.com/product?p=3978&amp;name=Petzl%20%20William">Petzl William</a> Ball Lock (weight 94g) &#8211; Carabiners that I use mainly in indoor climbing and ocassionally in rock. They&#8217;re large and easy to handle, but pretty heavy. The quality is good though and the locking mechanism is excellent for indoor climbing.</li>
<li>2x <a title="Petzl William in tribevine.com" href="http://www.tribevine.com/product?p=3978&amp;name=Petzl%20%20William">Petzl William</a> Screw Gate (weight 90g) &#8211; My backup belay carabiners. Quite often they still get carried to the bottom of the fall, but used mostly on indoor walls and on rock. Good quality, but heavy. The size makes it easy for organizing things.</li>
<li>1x Old Austrialpin &#8211; I used to have more of these, but they&#8217;ve gotten lost during the years. Due to the fact that it has the nose, I hardly ever use them anymore. On some top roping anchors, when putting up several of them and running out of other type of carabiners perhaps. I would definitely instruct people to stay away of nosed carabiners with the exception of very light carabiners cliped to the rope.</li>
<li>1x G<a title="Grivel Gamma K2W in tribevine.com" href="http://www.tribevine.com/product?p=5443&amp;name=Grivel%20Gamma%20K2W">rivel Gamma K2W</a> &#8211; Came with <a title="Grivel Speedy in tribevine.com" href="http://www.tribevine.com/product?p=4737&amp;name=Grivel%20%20Speedy">Speedy ice screw</a>. It&#8217;s good quality and it&#8217;s not unreasonably heavy, but has a nose. It&#8217;s not a huge issue as it&#8217;s rope end carabiner, but still prefer clear clips also as rope end carabiners.</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Carabiners I consider best of the class right now</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Small non-locker &#8211; <a title="Petzl Ange S in tribevine.com" href="http://www.tribevine.com/product?p=4337&amp;name=Petzl%20%20Ange">Petzl Ange S</a>; it&#8217;s the lightest clear clip nosed carabiner, overall a good quality and pretty easy clipping.</li>
<li>Full sized non-locker &#8211; <a title="Wild Country Helium in tribevine.com" href="http://www.tribevine.com/product?p=4327&amp;name=Wild%20Country%20%20Helium">Wildcountry Helium</a>; it&#8217;s the lightest full sized clear clip nosed carabiner, besides the clipping feel is great and gate opening good.</li>
<li>Small locker -<a title="DMM Phantom Screw Gate" href="http://www.tribevine.com/product?p=4488&amp;name=DMM%20Climbing%20Phantom%20Screwgate"> DMM Phantom Screwgate</a>; it&#8217;s either lightest or one of the lightest screw gate carabiners out there. DMM is known for its quality, so a good choice. My next anchor building carabiners are probably going to be these.</li>
</ul>
<p>I kind of thought to list also best of class full sized and large sized carabiners, but then decided that I haven&#8217;t researched them enough to make up a well founded opinion.</p>
<p><strong>Carabiner comparisons</strong></p>
<ul>
<li><a title="Light non-locking clear clip carabiners" href="http://www.tribevine.com/products?open=true&amp;ids=4332,4337,5035,6419,4327,4328,7676,5136,9713,5443&amp;title=Non-Locking">Light non-lockin clear clip carabiners and the ones mentioned in this article</a></li>
<li><a title="Light locking carabiners in tribevine.com" href="http://www.tribevine.com/products?open=true&amp;ids=4488,5752,4496,5056,4492,2460,5062,5364,4478,5033,4490,4386,4254,7676,5136,4494,3978,5277,9710,4481&amp;title=Locking">Light locking carabiners and the ones mentioned in this article</a></li>
<li><a title="Light Quickdraws in tribevine.com" href="http://www.tribevine.com/products?open=true&amp;ids=4399,5691,5031,6420,3853,2272&amp;title=Quickdraws">Light clear clip quickdraws and the ones mentioned in this article</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>The web-stores that sell these things:</strong></p>
<ol>
<li>Austrialpin Easy Classic &#8211; <a title="Austrialpin Easy Classic at Mountainshop" href="http://www.mountainshop.fi/kauppa/product_info.php?products_id=627">Mountainshop</a>, <a title="Austrialpin Easy Classic at Outdoor-Ranger" href="http://www.outdoor-ranger.co.uk/austrialpin-easy-classic-straight-karabiner-polish-p-10479.html">Outdoor-Ranger</a></li>
<li style="text-align: left;">Black Diamond Positron Screw Gate &#8211; <a title="Black Diamond Positron Screw Gate at REI" href="http://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&amp;mi=10248&amp;pw=38215&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F710216%2Fblack-diamond-positron-screwgate-carabiner">REI</a>, <a title="Black Diamond Positron Screw Gate at Backcountry.com" href="http://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&amp;mi=10060&amp;pw=38215&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.backcountry.com%2Fblack-diamond-positron-screwgate-carabiner">Backcountry</a>, <a title="Black Diamond Positron Screwgate at Barrabes.com" href="http://www.barrabes.com/shop/rock-climbing-gear/p-15242-d-1283-v-54638/black-diamond/positron-keylock-screwgate.html">Barrabes</a>, <a title="Black Diamond Positron Screwgate at Telemark-Pyrenees" href="http://www.telemark-pyrenees.com/en/blackdiamondpositronscrewgate-p-1127.html">Telemark-Pyrenees</a>, <a title="Black Diamond Positron Screwgate at Varuste.net" href="http://www.varuste.net/tuotetiedot2.asp?_prodid=3906&amp;nimi=Black+Diamond+Positron+Screwgate,+HMS">Varuste.net</a>, <a title="Positron Screwgate at Camu" href="http://www.camu.fi/pages/kiipeily/seinakiipeily/sulkurenkaat_lukittavat/positronscrewgate.html">Camu</a>, <a title="Black Diamond Positron Screwgate at US Outdoor Store" href="http://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&amp;mi=10573&amp;pw=38215&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.usoutdoor.com%2Foutlet%2Fblack-diamond-positron-screwgate-carabiner.html">US Outdoor Store</a>, <a title="Black Diamond Positron Screwgate at Eastern Mountain Sports" href="http://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&amp;mi=10785&amp;pw=38215&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ems.com%2Fproduct%2Findex.jsp%3FproductId%3D3659315">Eastern Mountain Sports</a>, <a title="Black Diamond Positron at GearX" href="http://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&amp;mi=10537&amp;pw=38215&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fgearx.com%2Fblack-diamond-positron-screwgate-biner.html">GearX</a></li>
<li>Black Diamond Positron Quickdraw &#8211; <a title="Black Diamond Positron Quickdraw at REI" href="http://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&amp;mi=10248&amp;pw=38215&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F809731%2Fblack-diamond-positron-quickdraw-set">REI</a>, <a title="Black Diamond Positron Quickdraw at Backcountry.com" href="http://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&amp;mi=10060&amp;pw=38215&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.backcountry.com%2Fblack-diamond-positron-quickdraw">Backcountry</a>, <a title="Black Diamond Positron Quickdraw at Barrabes.com" href="http://www.barrabes.com/shop/rock-climbing-gear/p-19021-d-1281-v-73498/black-diamond/positron-set-_-10-mm.html">Barrabes</a>, <a title="Black Diamond Positron Quickdraw at Telemark-Pyrenees" href="http://www.telemark-pyrenees.com/en/blackdiamondpositron12cmquickdraw-p-44416.html">Telemark-Pyrenees</a>, <a title="Black Diamond Positron Quickdraw at Varuste.net" href="http://www.varuste.net/tuotetiedot2.asp?_prodid=3133&amp;nimi=Black+Diamond+Positron+Quickdraw+12+cm">Varuste.net</a>, <a title="Black Diamon Positron Quickdraw at Camu" href="http://www.camu.fi/pages/kiipeily/seinakiipeily/jatkot/positronquickdraw10cm.html">Camu</a>, <a title="Black Diamond Positron Quickdraw at Moosejaw" href="http://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&amp;mi=10086&amp;pw=38215&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.moosejaw.com%2Fmoosejaw%2Fshop%2Fproduct_Black-Diamond-Positron-Quickdraw_10119124_10208_10000001_-1_">Moosejaw</a>, <a title="Black Diamond Positron Quickdraw at US Outdoor Store" href="http://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&amp;mi=10573&amp;pw=38215&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.usoutdoor.com%2Foutlet%2Fblack-diamond-positron-quickdraw.html">US Outdoor Store</a>, <a title="Black Diamond Positron Quickdraw at Eastern Mountain Sports" href="http://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&amp;mi=10785&amp;pw=38215&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ems.com%2Fproduct%2Findex.jsp%3FproductId%3D11755808">Eastern Mountain Sports</a>,  <a title="Black Diamond Positron Quickdraw at GearX" href="http://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&amp;mi=10537&amp;pw=38215&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fgearx.com%2Fblack-diamond-positron-quickdraw-18-cm-2011-tron.html">GearX</a></li>
<li>DMM Phantom Screwgate &#8211; <a title="DMM Phantom Screwgate at Needle Sports" href="http://www.needlesports.com/Catalogue/Rock-Climbing-Equipment/Karabiners/Standard-Screwgates/Phantom-Keylock-Screwgate-DMM-PHANTOMSG">Needle Sports</a>, <a title="DMM Phanton Screwgate at Barrabes.com" href="http://www.barrabes.com/shop/rock-climbing-gear/p-26509-d-1283-v-103220/dmm/phantom-screwgate.html">Barrabes</a>, <a title="DMM Phantom Screwgate at US Outdoor Store" href="http://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&amp;mi=10573&amp;pw=38215&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.usoutdoor.com%2Foutlet%2Fdmm-phantom-screwgate-caribeaner.html">US Outdoor Store</a></li>
<li>DMM Shield - <a title="DMM Shield at Needle Sports" href="http://www.needlesports.com/Catalogue/Rock-Climbing-Equipment/Karabiners/Standard-Karabiners/Shield-DMM-SHIELDKRAB">Needle Sports</a>, <a title="DMM Shield at Eastern Mountain Sports" href="http://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&amp;mi=10785&amp;pw=38215&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ems.com%2Fproduct%2Findex.jsp%3FproductId%3D3667259">Eastern Mountain Sports</a></li>
<li>E-climb Dissip - <a title="E-climb dissip at E-climb" href="http://www.e-climb.com/cintas_en/dissip_en">E-climb</a></li>
<li>Edelrid Dyneema Dogbone &#8211; <a title="Edelrid Dyneema Express Quickdraw Sling at Shelby" href="http://www.shelby.fi/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=41_138&amp;products_id=1751">Shelby</a></li>
<li>Grivel Gamma K2W &#8211; <a title="Black Diamond Express at GearX" href="http://gearx.com/black-diamond-express-ice-screw.html">?</a></li>
<li>Kong HMS Classic -<a title="Kong HMS Classic at Barrabes.com" href="http://www.barrabes.com/shop/rock-climbing-gear/p-20456-d-1283-v-77547/kong/hms-classic-screw_lock.html">Barrabes</a></li>
<li>Mammut Bionic HMS &#8211; <a title="Mammut Bionic HMS at Telemark-Pyrenees" href="http://www.telemark-pyrenees.com/en/mammutbionichms-p-4503.html">Telemark-Pyrenees</a>, <a title="Mammut Bionic HMS at Eastern Mountain Sports" href="http://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&amp;mi=10785&amp;pw=38215&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ems.com%2Fproduct%2Findex.jsp%3FproductId%3D3658604">Eastern Mountain Sports</a></li>
<li>Mammut Bionic Myhtolito - <a title="Mammut Bionic Mytholito at backcountry.com" href="http://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&amp;mi=10060&amp;pw=38215&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.backcountry.com%2Fmammut-bionic-mytholito-screwgate-carabiner">Backcountry</a>, <a title="Mammut Bionic Mytholito at Telemark-Pyrenees" href="http://www.telemark-pyrenees.com/en/mammutbionicmytholito-p-4505.html">Telemark-Pyrenees</a>, <a title="Mammut Bionic Mytholito at Moosejaw" href="http://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&amp;mi=10086&amp;pw=38215&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.moosejaw.com%2Fmoosejaw%2Fshop%2Fproduct_Mammut-Bionic-Mytholito-HMS-Carabiner_10119966_10208__-1_">Moosejaw</a>, <a title="Mammut Bionic Mytholito at US Outdoor Store" href="http://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&amp;mi=10573&amp;pw=38215&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.usoutdoor.com%2Foutlet%2Fmammut-bionic-mytholito-screwlock-carabiner.html">US Outdoor Store</a>, <a title="Mammut Bionic Mytholito at Eastern Mountain Sports" href="http://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&amp;mi=10785&amp;pw=38215&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ems.com%2Fproduct%2Findex.jsp%3FproductId%3D3658603">Eastern Mountain Sports</a>,  <a title="Mammut Bionic Mytholito at GearX" href="http://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&amp;mi=10537&amp;pw=38215&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fgearx.com%2Fmammut-bionic-mytholito-lock-biner.html">GearX</a></li>
<li>Mammut Bionic Wire Safe Gate &#8211; <a title="Mammut Bionic Wire Safe Gate at Varuste.net" href="http://www.varuste.net/tuotetiedot2.asp?_prodid=18124&amp;nimi=Mammut+Bionic+Wire+Safe+Gate">Varuste.net</a></li>
<li>Petzl Ange S &#8211; <a title="Petzl Ange at REI" href="http://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&amp;mi=10248&amp;pw=38215&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F822648%2Fpetzl-ange-s-wiregate-carabiner">REI</a>, <a title="Petzl Ange at Backcountry.com" href="http://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&amp;mi=10060&amp;pw=38215&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.backcountry.com%2Fpetzl-ange-s-ultra-lite-wire-gate-carabiner">Backcountry</a>, <a title="Petzl Ange at Needle Sports" href="http://www.needlesports.com/Catalogue/Rock-Climbing-Equipment/Karabiners/Standard-Karabiners/Ange-Karabiner---Small">Needle Sports</a>, <a title="Petzl Ange S at Barrabes.com" href="http://www.barrabes.com/shop/rock-climbing-gear/p-29510-d-1285-v-114814/petzl/ange-s.html">Barrabes</a>, <a title="Petzl Ange at Telemark-Pyrenees" href="http://www.telemark-pyrenees.com/en/petzlanges-p-46575.html">Telemark-Pyrenees</a>, <a title="Petzl Ange at Varuste.net" href="http://www.varuste.net/tuotetiedot2.asp?_prodid=36078&amp;nimi=Petzl+Ange+MonoFil,+S">Varuste.net</a>, <a title="Petzl Ange at US Outdoor Store" href="http://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&amp;mi=10573&amp;pw=38215&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.usoutdoor.com%2Foutlet%2Fpetzl-ange-small-carabiner.html">US Outdoor Store</a>, <a title="Petzl Ange at Eastern Mountain Sports" href="http://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&amp;mi=10785&amp;pw=38215&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ems.com%2Fproduct%2Findex.jsp%3FproductId%3D11326342">Eastern Mountain Sports</a>,  <a title="Petzl Ange at GearX" href="http://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&amp;mi=10537&amp;pw=38215&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fgearx.com%2Fpetzl-ange-s-carabiner.html">GearX</a>, <a title="Petzl Ange S at Shelby" href="http://www.shelby.fi/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=41_48_89&amp;products_id=1769">Shelby</a></li>
<li>Petzl Attache 3D &#8211; <a title="Petzl Attache 3D at REI" href="http://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&amp;mi=10248&amp;pw=38215&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F792817%2Fpetzl-attache-3d-hms-screwgate-carabiner">REI</a>, <a title="Petzl Attache 3D at Backcountry.com" href="http://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&amp;mi=10060&amp;pw=38215&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.backcountry.com%2Fpetzl-attache-3d-screw-lock-carabiner">Backcountry</a>, <a title="Petzl Attache 3D at Needle Sports" href="http://www.needlesports.com/Catalogue/Rock-Climbing-Equipment/Canyoning/Attache-3D-HMS-Screwgate-PET-ATT3D">Needle Sports</a>, <a title="Petzl Attache 3D at Barrabes.com" href="http://www.barrabes.com/shop/rock-climbing-gear/p-25686-d-1283-v-99420/petzl/attache-3-d-screw_lock.html">Barrabes</a>, <a title="Petzl Attache 3D at Telemark-Pyrenees" href="http://www.telemark-pyrenees.com/en/petzlattache3d-p-8412.html">Telemark-Pyrenees</a>, <a title="Petzl Attache 3D at Varuste.net" href="http://www.varuste.net/tuotetiedot2.asp?_prodid=38682&amp;nimi=Petzl+Attache+3D+ScrewLock">Varuste.net</a>, <a title="Petzl Attache 3D at Moosejaw" href="http://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&amp;mi=10086&amp;pw=38215&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.moosejaw.com%2Fmoosejaw%2Fshop%2Fproduct_Petzl-Attache-3D-Carabiner_10085047_10208__-1_">Moosejaw</a>, <a title="Petzl Attache 3D at US Outdoor Store" href="http://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&amp;mi=10573&amp;pw=38215&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.usoutdoor.com%2Foutlet%2Fpetzl-attache-3d-caribiner.html">US Outdoor Store</a>, <a title="Petzl Attache 3D at Eastern Mountain Sports" href="http://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&amp;mi=10785&amp;pw=38215&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ems.com%2Fproduct%2Findex.jsp%3FproductId%3D3665001">Eastern Mountain Sports</a>, <a title="Petzl Attache 3D at Shelby" href="http://www.shelby.fi/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=41_48_88&amp;products_id=1390">Shelby</a></li>
<li>Petzl William &#8211; <a title="Petzl William at REI" href="http://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&amp;mi=10248&amp;pw=38215&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rei.com%2Fproduct%2F737864%2Fpetzl-william-screwgate-carabiner">REI</a>, <a title="Petzl William at Backcountry.com" href="http://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&amp;mi=10060&amp;pw=38215&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.backcountry.com%2Fpetzl-william-locking-carabiner-ptz0079">Backcountry</a>,<a title="Petzl William at Barrabes.com" href="http://www.barrabes.com/shop/work_at_height--rescue-gear/p-24119-d-1751-v-93409/petzl/william-screw_lock.html">Barrabes</a>, <a title="Petzl William at Telemark-Pyrenees" href="http://www.telemark-pyrenees.com/en/petzlwilliamtriact-p-2094.html">Telemark-Pyrenees</a>, <a title="Petzl William at Varuste.net" href="http://www.varuste.net/tuotetiedot2.asp?_prodid=32447&amp;nimi=Petzl+William+Screw+Lock">Varuste.net</a>, <a title="Petzl William at Moosejaw" href="http://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&amp;mi=10086&amp;pw=38215&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.moosejaw.com%2Fmoosejaw%2Fshop%2Fproduct_Petzl-William-Screw-Lock-Carabiner_10026327_10208_10000001_-1_">Moosejaw</a>, <a title="Petzl William at US Outdoor Store" href="http://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&amp;mi=10573&amp;pw=38215&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.usoutdoor.com%2Foutlet%2Fpetzl-william-lock-carabiner.html">US Outdoor Store</a>, <a title="Petzl William at Eastern Mountain Sports" href="http://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&amp;mi=10785&amp;pw=38215&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ems.com%2Fproduct%2Findex.jsp%3FproductId%3D3665027">Eastern Mountain Sports</a>,  <a title="Petzl William at GearX" href="http://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&amp;mi=10537&amp;pw=38215&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fgearx.com%2Fpetzl-william-screw-lock.html">GearX</a></li>
<li>Wild Country Helium &#8211; <a title="Wild Country Helium at Backcountry.com" href="http://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&amp;mi=10060&amp;pw=38215&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.backcountry.com%2Fwild-country-helium-clean-wire-carabiner">Backcountry</a>, <a title="Wild Country Helium at Needle Sports" href="http://www.needlesports.com/Catalogue/Rock-Climbing-Equipment/Karabiners/Standard-Karabiners/Helium-Clean-Wire-Krab-WCO-HEL">Needle Sports</a>, <a title="Wild Country Helium at Telemark-Pyrenees" href="http://www.telemark-pyrenees.com/en/wildcountryheliumcleanlock-p-1943.html">Telemark-Pyrenees</a>, <a title="Wild Country Helium at US Outdoor Store" href="http://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&amp;mi=10573&amp;pw=38215&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.usoutdoor.com%2Foutlet%2Fwild-country-helium-wire-carabiner.html">US Outdoor Store</a>,  <a title="Wild Country Helium at GearX" href="http://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&amp;mi=10537&amp;pw=38215&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fgearx.com%2Fwild-country-helium-wire-carabiner-red-anodized.html">GearX</a></li>
<li>Wild Country Helium Quickdraw &#8211; <a title="Black Diamond Express at REI" href="http://www.rei.com/webservices/rei/DisplayStyle/761270">REI</a>, <a title="Wild Coumyry Helium at Backcountry.com" href="http://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&amp;mi=10060&amp;pw=38215&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.backcountry.com%2Fwild-country-helium-10cm-quickdraw-5-pack-wdc0022">Backcountry</a>, <a title="Wild Country Helium Quickdraw at Needle Sports" href="http://www.needlesports.com/Catalogue/Rock-Climbing-Equipment/Quickdraws/Helium-Quickdraw-WCO-HELQD">Needle Sports</a>, <a title="Wild Country Helium Quickdraw at Telemark-Pyrenees" href="http://www.telemark-pyrenees.com/en/wildcountryhelium10cmqdset-p-1942.html">Telemark-Pyrenees</a>, <a title="Wild Country Helium Quickdraw at US Outdoor Store" href="http://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&amp;mi=10573&amp;pw=38215&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.usoutdoor.com%2Foutlet%2Fwild-country-helium-wire-quickdraw.html">US Outdoor Store</a>,  <a title="Wild Country Helium Quickdraw at GearX" href="http://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&amp;mi=10537&amp;pw=38215&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fgearx.com%2Fwild-country-helium-wire-10cm-quickdraw.html">GearX</a></li>
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<p><strong>Few closeup shots of the screws</strong><strong>:<br />
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		<title>Weak spots of quality gear</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 02 May 2010 11:51:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>juho</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Some time ago I reviewed Wild Country Helium quickdraws. At the time I just couldn&#8217;t find anything negative on them. I&#8217;ve used the quickdraws happily ever after. They&#8217;ve been great, but since the first article I have discovered some weaknesses too. The realization of the fact that quite a few pieces of quality gear also [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some time ago I reviewed Wild Country Helium quickdraws. At the time I just couldn&#8217;t find anything negative on them. I&#8217;ve used the quickdraws happily ever after. They&#8217;ve been great, but since the first article I have discovered some weaknesses too. The realization of the fact that quite a few pieces of quality gear also have several weaknesses led me to write this piece. At this point I want to stress the fact that each of the products and brands described in this article are extremely good and I could recommend any of them. Still I feel that it is important for climbers to realize the limitations and weaknesses of their gear and how to go around the weaknesses. Furthermore I feel that it is important that the manufactures hear the feedback from the field.</p>
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<small>Picture above: Broken Wild Country Helium.</small></p>
<p><strong>1. Berghaus Extrem gloves</strong><br />
Seams seem to tear apart in heavy use, especially with ropes. They would be great gloves, I love their dexterity and warmth but as their seams may tear apart during a single day, they just aren&#8217;t an option for ice climbing. Even while ski touring one needs to be careful when ever handling ropes.</p>
<p><strong>2. Grivel Rambo 4 crampons</strong><br />
The yellow plastic of the active antibots breaks apart easily from its attachment; harder black plastic. I&#8217;ve seen this happen practically in every pair of Rambo&#8217;s I&#8217;ve seen. Despite the problem they&#8217;re best ice climbing crampons I know, and with a bit of patience one can fix the problem temporarily by pushing the plastic part back in place.</p>
<p><strong>3. Wild Country Helium Quickdraws</strong><br />
The anti-slip rubber of Helium Quickdraws is too &#8220;hard&#8221; and therefore breaks in below zero temperatures from the stitching seam. I have a set of five of these and it has happened on everyone except one. Different type of rubber, for instance such that&#8217;s been used in Black Diamon&#8217;s Positrons would probably fix the problem. Though I like Heliums, they&#8217;re not currently the first choice for an ice climber.</p>
<p><strong>4. Sigg Bottle cap</strong><br />
Threads of the cap get eaten by the bottle. To prevent this bottle should not be filled too full, the cap should not be tightened too tight and one should not allow the bottle to freeze.</p>
<p><strong>5. North Face Summit Series Gore-Tex XCR jacket</strong><br />
The watertight zippers of the jacket wear down quite fast in below zero temperatures, especially if there&#8217;s plenty of use for the zippers.</p>
<p><strong>6. Black Diamond Ice Clippers and their Xenos ice climbing harness</strong><br />
Ice Clippers slip through the clipper holders of Xenos after a while. In order to avoid that one should avoid too heavy loads (>five screws) and bending the clippers while packing it up. Still if the lip of the Ice Clipper would be just a bit longer or the clipper holder in the harness just a bit stiffer, it would work perfectly.</p>
<p><strong>7. Grivel Manu backpack</strong><br />
The Manu concept, detachable gear loops, is great and I&#8217;m using it frequently. The problem though is that with the gear loops only (i.e. backpack removed) the velcro on the back of the gear loops sticks to everything and cause for instance slings to wear faster than I would hope. An extra sheet of something to put on top of the velcro will fix the problem, but perhaps that could integrated to the Manu somehow too.</p>
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<p>Any comments and experiences of similar weak spots are greatly appreciated. I&#8217;m sure there are plenty of such around. It&#8217;s a great help for fellow climbers to be aware of them.</p>
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		<title>Helium quickdraws &#8211; what&#8217;s different?</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 12:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>juho</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[During the years I&#8217;ve been using both traditional quickdraws as well as wiregate quickdraws. Just few weeks ago I had a first set of Wild Country Helium wiregates and last weekend I was able to have some real action with them. Since Heliums go around few issues that has plagued other wiregate quickdraws, I just [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>During the years I&#8217;ve been using both traditional quickdraws as well as wiregate quickdraws. Just few weeks ago I had a first set of <a title="Wild Country Helium quickdraws and carabiners" href="http://www.wildcountry.co.uk/Products/Karabiners/Helium/">Wild Country Helium</a> wiregates and last weekend I was able to have some real action with them. Since Heliums go around few issues that has plagued other wiregate quickdraws, I just wanted to write a short article about the differences and practical experiences with Heliums compared to other types of quickdraws.</p>
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<small>Picture above: Wild Country Helium quickdraw</small></p>
<p>Traditionally wiregates are lightweight and easy to clip, but on the other hand there is a nose that can hook up (=get stuck) either on the screw while unclipping, harness while clipping or somewhere else whatever it is. I&#8217;ve heard also some talk about wiregates being a bit less secure, because they are said to unclip easier in dead man’s loop situation. On the other hand wiregates are less prone to freezing, though I gave to say that I haven&#8217;t had any problems with my Black Diamond positron quickdraws either.</p>
<p>So what about Heliums then? First thing you note is the fact that Heliums are extremely light, lot lighter than traditional wiregate quickdraws tend to be, and it&#8217;s full sized (which is good). Second thing you note is the coloring of the carabineers, each end is colored differently, rope end being red. By closer look one notes the fact that the nose of the gate is being shielded, which prevents hooking (in my opinion the biggest annoyance with wiregates). The features include also rubber o-ring that keeps the rope-end carabineer in right position and eases up clipping.</p>
<p>In real climbing situation Heliums provided to be extremely easy to clip, and being light, climbs are that much easier. In short they seemed to work like thought. So far I haven&#8217;t found anything negative, except perhaps price. If I do, I will let you know. In case I would need new quickdraws, I would buy more Heliums. That&#8217;s probably the strongest recommendation one can give.</p>
<p><strong>Update 12.5.2010</strong></p>
<p>The rubber thing keeping the rope-end carabiner in place tends to break from stitching in cold conditions. The rubber material used there just can&#8217;t take it what comes to climbing in cold. It does not effect to the safety of the carabiner, but makes may result a bit less easy clippings. Until they change the material I would consider something else for ice climbing especially in extra cold environments. See the <a href="http://www.climbingextreme.com/?p=494">weak spots of quality gear</a> article.</p>
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